23 JAN 2015 by ideonexus

 Astrology as a False Science

"Excuse me," she said hesitantly, "but what effect do these minor planets have on our behavior and fortunes? I mean, you know, astrological influence?" He looked at her. "None." "None at all?" "No." "But if the planets affect our fortunes—" She stumbled to a stop at the dispassionately scornful look on the pale man's face, the slow way he shook his head. "Surely you'll agree that the planets order and control our destinies?" "They do not." "Not at all?" "No." "Then what does? Contro...
Folksonomies: politics science academia
Folksonomies: politics science academia
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In a fantasy world, where it retains distinction in academia because the academics have too much invested in it.
21 JUN 2014 by ideonexus

 Pseudoscience Preceded Science

Do you believe then that the sciences would ever have arisen and become great if there had not beforehand been magicians, alchemists, astrologers and wizards, who thirsted and hungered after abscondite and forbidden powers?
Folksonomies: history pseudoscience
Folksonomies: history pseudoscience
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29 MAY 2014 by ideonexus

 Sages VS Astrologers

Someone asked whether a sage could make divination. [Yang Hsiung] replied that a sage could certainly make divination about Heaven and Earth. If that is so, continued the questioner, what is the difference between the sage and the astrologer (shih)l [Yang Hsiung] replied, 'The astrologer foretells what the effects of heavenly phenomena will be on man; the sage foretells what the effects of man's actions will be on the heavens'.
Folksonomies: history perspective
Folksonomies: history perspective
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Fa Yen (Model Discourses) ca 5 AD. Transi J Needham Science and Civilization in China 1956

Yang Hsiung 51 bc-ad 18

08 AUG 2013 by ideonexus

 Secrecy Led to the Loss of Chinese Technological Achievem...

While these state records survive, most of the ancient Chinese literature on astronomy has disappeared. Because astronomy was so state-oriented, so security-bound, and so secret, the old astronomy books have left few traces. By contrast, the early books on mathematics, which were used by merchants, directors of public works, and military commanders, have survived in considerable numbers. Repeated imperial edicts enforced state security for calendrical science, astronomy, and astrology. In A.D...
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The state guarded its understanding of Astronomy and Time-Keeping so that history has little record of the details of how advanced it was. In contrast, public science is known and revered by historians.